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Post by nlinealac on Sept 12, 2011 21:55:17 GMT -8
^^ DONE!
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Post by josr on Sept 13, 2011 9:16:14 GMT -8
hey rabbi the other day i saw some dura ace hubs online BUT they did not have the njs stamp on them. whats the difference, bearings? the material is made of or what?? or did they forget to add the stamp? school me.
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Post by Rushing on Sept 13, 2011 10:26:51 GMT -8
It's possible that it has the stamp. My jaguar stem has it and the seller said there was no stamp.
I believe Dura Ace uses free bearings.
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Post by sids on Sept 13, 2011 10:32:23 GMT -8
NJS means that the parts meet the specifications set by the Nihon Jitensha Shinkōkai (Japan Keirin Association), meaning they are certified to be used in Keirin races in Japan. It is not a mark of quality, rather it is a mark of standardization--that it meets NJS requirements. So, for example, two hubs could be exactly the same quality but one may be marked and one not because one has a spoke count that does meet the specified number of spokes. "A common misconception regarding certification is that it is a mark of quality, when in fact it is simply a mark of standardization; parts stamped with the NJS logo have become fashionable in recent years with some Western cyclists." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JKA_Foundation"As a result of the parimutuel gambling that surrounds keirin racing in Japan, a strict system of standards was developed for bicycles and repair tools. There are currently 50 velodromes in operation that hold races where annually over 20 million people attend and place bets amounting to over ¥1.5 trillion($15 billion) .[6] Since so much money is at stake, the Nihon Jitensha Shinkōkai (Japanese Bicycle Association or NJS) - now under the JKA Foundation - requires that all keirin racers in Japan ride and use equipment that meets their standards. All riders use very similar bicycles, so that no rider will have any advantage or disadvantage based on equipment. In addition, all riders must pass strict licensing requirements. Those who wish to race in Japan must attend the Japan Bicycle Racing School where they learn the necessary rules, etiquette, and skills. The school typically accepts only 10% of applicants. Those who pass final examination must still be approved by the Japan Keirin Association.[6] All bicycles and equipment must be built within strict guidelines set by the NJS, by a certified builder using NJS-approved materials. The products are then stamped by NJS and only equipment bearing this stamp may be used. The NJS standard is to ensure that no rider will have any advantage or disadvantage based on equipment and does not necessarily relate to quality or standard of manufacture.[7][8] For example, 36 spoke wheels are allowed but not 32, although 32 spoke wheels are typically lighter, and frames must be built by a very limited number of approved builders. NJS approved equipment often sells for more than comparable equipment because of its specific use, build requirements, and limited manufacturers.[7] Popular manufacturers include Samson, Nitto, Bridgestone, 3Rensho, Shimano, Nagasawa, Panasonic, Hatta, MKS, Kashimax, and Sugino.[citation needed] Because the NJS's main objective is supporting the Japanese cycling market, its bureaucracy is notoriously critical of foreign manufacturers attempting to enter the Japanese market. The Italian cycling equipment manufacturer Campagnolo has, though, received NJS certification.[8]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KeirinHope I didn't thread jack you Rabbi tl;dr you pay extra for the stamp. |
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Post by rabbi on Sept 13, 2011 18:53:13 GMT -8
Only dura ace 7600 hubs in 36h are njs stamped.
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Post by nlinealac on Sept 13, 2011 23:30:09 GMT -8
All njs hubs are 36 spoke. The 32 we use in the states are not njs.
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Post by Rushing on Sept 17, 2011 12:57:18 GMT -8
Dear, Rabbi
I'm a bit confused on seat tube measurements. If I were to be looking for a frame what should I go by, Center-to-top or center-to-center?
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Post by erikb on Sept 17, 2011 16:44:43 GMT -8
Dear Rabbi,
How is it that i am so fuckin badass?
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Post by nlinealac on Sept 17, 2011 20:33:12 GMT -8
Dear rabbi, how will it feel to have you as handed to you on a reagular basis by NuVision next year?
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Post by erikb on Sept 17, 2011 20:37:42 GMT -8
BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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Post by austin on Sept 17, 2011 22:49:58 GMT -8
LOOOOOOLOLOLOOLOLASDASDASOD
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Post by rabbi on Sept 18, 2011 8:19:52 GMT -8
Dear, Rabbi I'm a bit confused on seat tube measurements. If I were to be looking for a frame what should I go by, Center-to-top or center-to-center? worry about the toptube, not seattube. |
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Post by rabbi on Sept 18, 2011 8:21:07 GMT -8
Dear rabbi, how will it feel to have you as handed to you on a reagular basis by NuVision next year? i don't know, i will get back to you when it happens. |
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Post by sids on Sept 19, 2011 10:28:55 GMT -8
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Post by Rushing on Sept 19, 2011 12:25:42 GMT -8
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Post by austin on Sept 19, 2011 13:06:07 GMT -8
i will always love cinelli. as for size, how tall are you?
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Post by Rushing on Sept 19, 2011 13:15:18 GMT -8
Cinelli Vigorelli or MASH Histogram, Austin?
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Post by sids on Sept 19, 2011 13:50:35 GMT -8
6'3" Austin
I just asked Brian, he told me to step up to the 60 and hes seen me ride quite a bit so I guess I'll prob make the jump
I don't really like the pursuit geometry of the histogram Rushing, to far down for me. Granted I haven't ridden it but I just don't think I would be comfortable.
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Post by Rushing on Sept 19, 2011 14:36:50 GMT -8
I was thinking about building a bike for racing and such, especially after that drag race.
It's either the 2009/10 Vigorelli or Histogram. I believe I can manage the geometry on the Histogram.
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Post by rabbi on Sept 19, 2011 18:44:25 GMT -8
The mash does not have true pursuit geometry. It's simply an extended seattube. Get whatever you want, but I think cinellis are overpriced. And as for las vegas shops, only 3 of those frames are available as a complete bikes, so you'd be hard pressed to find a shop in any other city that has one for you to test out.
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Post by josr on Sept 19, 2011 20:08:57 GMT -8
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Post by sids on Sept 20, 2011 8:15:09 GMT -8
Thanks for the input everyone, still not sure what I am going to get but it helped give me some new ideas and things to think about
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Post by josr on Sept 20, 2011 18:47:48 GMT -8
dont hurt yourself sids
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Post by craig on Sept 20, 2011 19:23:45 GMT -8
we might as well call this the dear everyone thread.
by the way, crabbi, are you going to push thrasher thursday?
and do you want to do procyclery ride tomorrow?
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Post by extrasketchy on Sept 21, 2011 0:17:59 GMT -8
I get it because of all of the thinking. Which emoticon do I use for knee slapper?  Plus I agree with Criag, Crabbi's thread should be him responding. Maybe a thread,answer yahoo style where we discus general questions Edit: to late I already did. |
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Post by rabbi on Sept 21, 2011 9:02:16 GMT -8
I do answer. Since the early days of lvfixed ver1, this has always been the question thread. So GTFO with a new thread.
Craig, I will not be doing the procyclery ride. I need to be at work at 3:30am tomorrow.
Also, I will not be doing thrasher this week. For reasoning, see above.
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Post by nlinealac on Sept 21, 2011 10:23:57 GMT -8
I agree. Keep this as the questions thread and anyone can answer. Crabbi isn't always correct anyway.
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Post by Rushing on Sept 21, 2011 13:27:13 GMT -8
Dear, Rabbi
(Something less bike related)
Why do you seem pissed as fack all the time? Or maybe it's just me, but you seem to have this look on your face like you want to bludgeon someone with a brick.
Sincerely, Joshua
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Post by rabbi on Sept 21, 2011 16:03:13 GMT -8
Hahahaha. Idk, I guess something must always be bothering me. The last 7 months it was me being unemployed and barely having money to do anything.
And right now it's nick and craig with this crabbi shit. WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!?!
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Post by craig on Sept 21, 2011 16:09:20 GMT -8
crabby rabbi
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